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Escaping the We are all "One" False Belief System.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:25 am
by Marcel
Hi all,
I hope I am posting this in the correct section. This is a topic I would like to bring up on this forum with hopes of feedback for any others who may relate to what I am going to touch lightly on in bringing this topic into the open. I will give a general and basic overview and leave it open to see if some of you may relate or wish to share any experience you may also have had on this.

I at one stage was very involved in New Age philosophies and one of the strongest movements I have seen within New Age concepts which currently is taking place on this Earth is the concept of us all being One. What this false belief entails is that we are all One, there is no other soul, only one soul.. One consciousness and we are all God, or all the Universe, we are all everything there is no separation and I am you, you are me and we are all just reflections of the the entire Cosmos etc etc;
This False Belief system and I am claiming that is a false belief system, as I have learnt through Divine truth teachings so far that I in fact do have my own soul and I am the half of my soulmate and I am only a child of God and God is external to me. Anyhow This False belief system that we are all God or consciousness and all One has been an exceptionally difficult concept to escape from due to the spirit association connected with this. I believe that I am under immense spirit influence a lot of the time and I am constantly having to process, almost countless other spirits emotions to the extent that is practically impossible for me to process my own emotions a lot of the time and it is extremely difficult for me to focus on my own life and soul and soul condition towards building my relationship with God because; this false concept which seems to be a major ruling belief for many on this earth currently, which is almost like a hive mind philosophy in my opinion, seems to give many people the idea that because we are all one soul only, One spirit and one consciousness. It feels to me like, so many spirits who do not even realise they are individuals come into my life and project what they like whatever it may feel whatever emotion they like in regards to my personal space and then just walk out without even asking if we can communicate because they believe my body is their body because they are God and if this body dies it does not matter because it was just a part of the reflection of the all Oneness of everything. This is highly disrespectful and so damaging because, I actually do have my own soul as all humans do and I want to work on my soul and I would like to be able to do this, without being overpowered by false concepts and people who believe they are all One energy just coming in and overriding everything and then just moving along and not even knocking on the door in the first place or wiping their feet before they come in or even leaving in a polite manner after because the entire philosophy just seems to be a total over ride of everything in regards to personal soul boundaries? This entire movement, this entire belief system of course runs completely against Divine Truth Teachings and so I believe this is another reason why I am under such heavy influence and have so much projected at me as I no longer believe those previous idea's about us being all One at all.

This is a complicated issue that I am trying to bring to light on this forum and I think my reasoning for mentioning this here, is I wish to to not be so affected by this movement or the souls who are affiliated with it and hopefully correct what I am able to in having held these false beliefs myself in my past, I mean even the other day I had my mum say to me in a discussion about God, are we not all One Spirit? I couldn't understand it I mean, she has been praying to God her whole life and now she believes this!? I see it all the time on social networks, even people I would not expect to have any idea of New Age concepts are saying now, oh we are all One. This idea that we are all One, is a damaging one, it has its pro's in that you would think if we are all one, people would be more caring because why would someone want to hurt another if that other is a part of them(or them in itself) but in reality this is not what is happening, what is transpiring to my mind is a far more sinister control mechanism that scares me because I have seen how difficult it is to break away from this, and the type of control that has been projected at me in trying to do so. Also for people to believe they have no personal soul of their own but they are everything, well one can imagine how far the actual truth this actually is. I have learnt from Jesus and Mary that I am a child of God and always will be and this makes me so happy whenever I remind myself of this.
I wonder if anybody reading this has difficulties in regards to the association of spirits in these movements and trying to work towards a place of peace breaking away from it? If you may have anything to share on this topic I would love to hear your experience on the matter.
I do hope it has been alright for me to post about this here?

Re: Escaping the We are all "One" False Belief System.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:51 am
by Marcel
Something else I just thought of in relation to this;

Becoming at One with God, if a soul becomes at one with God, this does not mean they become God, or become one all of everything, is it not true that even once a soul is personally at One with God, they are still God's creation and a child of God but not God?
I think some of the confusion with New Age Movements may lie in this area where people confuse becoming at One with God, with Becoming God.
I stand to correction :)

Re: Escaping the We are all "One" False Belief System.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:03 am
by Lena
Hi Marcel,

I have learnt that there are always reasons why we accept false beliefs. So my suggestion would be for you to find the reason that made you accept the false belief about being all One.
Basically why did it sound so good to you when you first heard it or whenever you have decided that it made sense to you? What was going on in your life at the time when you have found this belief?

The reason is always emotional and can be something, that perhaps has nothing to do with new age philosophy itself, but is a personal feeling.

I would recommend you to watch the following series of presentations and channeling on the subject of reincarnation, which is like the one you mention is a widespread false belief believed even more so by general public, where Jesus and Mary discuss reasons behind believing it, and they have also assisted spirits who support belief and exposed their emotions for wanting to believe it, which I feel you will find very helpful:

Reincarnation, Belief Systems & Emotion P1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aValNp9ADko

Reincarnation, Belief Systems & Emotion P2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-kZ1CSjZM

Spirits Who Believe In Reincarnation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAGbmtK696o

As for the spirit influence part of your question, I feel it is important you investigate the attraction more thoroughly, and as I have already recommended to you in another post, there are many seminars about spirit influence how to understand it and why we attract certain spirits. You have obviously not yet watched it.

There are many seminars which you can watch and reflect about your life and the spirit influence you attract
FAQ:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 14uK6u8q4Q

Seminars:
https://www.youtube.com/user/WizardShak ... 0influence


Re: you question becoming God.

Evidence suggest, such as that Jesus and Mary and others have come back to Earth not as Gods but as themselves, that we will not become God even when we become a whole soul again united with our soulmate.

I feel though that the spirits wish to have an argument with you or anyone else on the subject why they just want to believe that. I say that because you mention that you have already watched the information about why it can not be the case, but they still wish to want to believe that.
This is why I felt it is important for yourself to know about the principle that there are always emotional reasons why we accept false beliefs.
Either from the society, spirits, or our parents.

Here are some helpful presentations about God a seperate being:

Jesus explains more about God and how he/she is, in fact, an entity separate from ourselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEZq_Cmyj_A

Jesus discusses how we can progress infinitely by connecting with God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deaM0yvN3CA


I hope this is of help to your question.

Lena

Re: Escaping the We are all "One" False Belief System.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:08 am
by Marcel
wow, Thanks Lena!

You are right, I have not started on spirit influence material that you shared with me yet, I have much material to go through and to work on. So I will get going :)

Re: Escaping the We are all "One" False Belief System

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:12 pm
by LauraR
Hello Marcel,

I have come out of the new age movement. And I do feel as though I escaped - by the skin of my teeth - as the expression goes. I was pretty deep in, but not as far as some. I was a Reiki Master/teacher and worked at a new age metaphysical shop. I also taught meditations and spiritual awareness classes every Thursday night for about four years.

However, throughout my new age experience, there were areas that did not make sense to me. I believe it was those particular areas of belief that did not make sense to me that eventually lead me to Divine Truth.

Just breifly, I started asking questions of "God" about my areas of concern. I thought much of my confusion was my fault. My concept of "God" at that time was that he was the universe and we were all one. Although my concept of God was flawed, I believe my desire for truth is what led me out of the the maze of beliefs that are the new age. That and I must have some really amazing guides! And they must be exhausted! It took a while, but I I am so very glad that my guides were able to direct me.

I would like to discuss the topic further if you so desire, but as Lena suggested, it is very important for you to listen/watch the videos and feel about the reasons you believed what you did. I know what some of my reasons/addictions were, but I do not want to taint your process with mine. I will say this, that your question has brought me more understanding and areas where I still hold onto error and judgment. There is also anger still, so I will probably watch the suggested videos as well. You cannot watch them once and receive all the truth that is being presented - it is wonderful!

You will find that as you watch more videos and read more of the posts on the forum, that many if not all the people that find Divine Love came out of the new age or religions and beliefs systems that are so far from truth. That is why there is so much darkness on the planet at this time.

Have courage and as I said earlier I would like to discuss the topic further if you are so inclined (although it might need to be moved to another area on the forum).

With love,

LauraR