Truth or wishful thinking?

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Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by Angel Legna » Wed May 18, 2016 3:33 am

How do we really learn how to discern God's Truth from what we wish to be God's Truth?
What if my emotional injuries are preventing me from seeing the REAL Truth?
I worry that my injuries cause me to see "truth" when it is, in fact, addiction.

I pray for guidance and for true discernment, so as to find God's Truth. I watch Divine Truth seminar videos on YouTube almost every day to try to learn the real Truth. I just hope I'm on the right track.


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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by Amanda Stracey » Wed May 18, 2016 8:56 pm

Hi Legna

A few talks/interviews came to me that you might find helpful to look at where I've heard Jesus & Mary discuss the process of facing and accepting truth and the qualities of Divine Truth.

01 Apr 13 FAQ Session/Interview With Jesus Luli Faber
How The Human Soul Functions S01 Preclusion, Absorption, Dominance,Progression, Resistance & Presence

Transcript is here: https://www.divinetruth.com/www/en/pdf/ ... cript).pdf

Also in 2013 there is a whole series of interviews about the qualities and attributes of Divine Truth which can be found on the website here:

https://www.divinetruth.com/www/en/html ... erview.htm

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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by David R » Sun May 22, 2016 3:59 am

Dear Legna,

This is such a powerful question, I had some resistance to answering it - I wanted to be careful to not allow my emotional condition to suggest any incorrect path here especially since your desire is so sincere.

After feeling about it a bit a simple answer came to me, I love simple answers :D

The more we process causal emotions and allow gods love to flow into us, the more emotionally aware we are of what feels right - and what feels wrong :D

Good luck on your journey!

lots of love!

David

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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by Angel Legna » Mon May 23, 2016 7:02 pm

Hi Amanda and David,

Thank you so much for your comments.

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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by Mary » Tue May 24, 2016 6:43 am

Hey everyone,

This is really funny because after ages away from the forum I logged on the other day and looked at maybe two posts, one of which was Legna's here. I liked this question and without logging back onto the forum, this afternoon I typed up a response. Now I'm back and it doesn't seem that Legna was sincere in her/his question... but I'll just chuck my two bits worth below in case it helps someone else in future!

By the way, 'Hi' David - it's really lovely to see your post here.

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Mary

Hi Legna,

I noticed your question here yesterday and thought it was a good one to answer.

I liked your question for two reasons. One, was that I think a lot of people have this same fear but they aren't really honest with themselves about it. And two, because the answer is really one of the most core principles of the Way that Jesus is teaching us.

This principle states that a crucial first step in gaining any truth into our soul is to seek to know and release all of the things within us that oppose that truth. Fear is the actual, scientific opposite of truth. And due to the principle of preclusion, truth can't enter you while you have a fear relating to it within you.

In your question you express a lot of fears about knowing truth.

You said
"What if my emotional injuries are preventing me from seeing the REAL Truth?"
The answer is that your emotional injuries are preventing you from seeing the Truth. That it is why it is so important to remove our emotional injuries.

There are many strategies to help you do this – cultivating humility, seeking truth on an intellectual level and opening up and observing what God's Laws are attempting to show you.

But it is impossible to actually know and experience individual truths while there is an emotional error (sin/fear) that opposes that truth still within us.

It is like a person who fears something that to most other people (who don't have that fear) seems completely irrational. For example, when a person who has a phobia of spiders seeing a tiny, non venomous spider far across the other side of the room. If you aren't afraid of the spider you aren't going to be worried but the person with the phobia is freaking out. Unless the person with the phobia has an experience that involves the release of emotion (fear) that will allow them to experience the truth that the spider doesn't threaten their life then it doesn't matter how much you reassure them, the fear will remain within them and they won't know the truth.

They might even figure out a nifty "work around" strategy of affirmations or intellectual deconstruction that makes them appear less afraid on the surface but internally they are working for it, they are relying on a 'device' or strategy because the fear is still within them. They are dependent on that strategy instead of allowing the natural workings of their soul (that is that emotion is meant to move through us and be released). Allowing that pent up emotional energy to move freely and be released is the only sure-fire way to eliminate all 'strategy', be calm, relaxed and know truth.

At the moment in your prayers, you are actually asking God for reassurance without being willing to feel the fear you have that this "Divine Truth thing", and your understanding of your current injuries, is not accurate but actually wrong and addiction.

This is a really common amongst people listening to Divine Truth. And indeed most people who live in fear, want to be 'certain' we are on the right track and to know that we are doing the right thing before we act and experiment.

I remember when I first met Jesus again all I wanted was reassurance from him and the people around him (and all of my friends and my family) that following this path was going to be OK and that I was doing the right thing.

But due to the way the soul works, no matter what external approval or reassurance we receive, our own knowledge of truth and faith in a process can't grow until we have our own emotional and life experiences that remove fear from our soul.

What my own response when I met Jesus has demonstrated to me is how dependent I was (and still am in many areas) on others for validation.

I can tell you that the validation and reassurance I did receive did nothing to reduce my actual fear. It just made me more and more dependent on those people who gave it, which only made the problem worse. And it is actually impossible to have any proper, loving relationships with people when your fear and desire for reassurance is the issue that keeps you seeking them out. It becomes very tiring on both ends.

And because I was unwilling to experience my fears of making a mistake, of being alone and wrong, the lack of validation and attack I received for choosing to try to follow the Way just slowed me down and caused me to get angry. All of this was just more evidence of my dependence on others and my desire to not take personal responsibility for the fears that were already within me.

I really like that you were so open about your specific fears in your questions. I suppose I am taking the time to write this to you because the answer is very simple (though not necessarily easy) but you need to be careful about avoiding the solution and instead prolonging your dependence on others before you are willing to act and experiement.

You only need to be willing to experience that desperate fear that you might be getting it wrong and that you won't be seeing your injuries clearly.

Release those fears and you will be OK with getting it wrong sometimes. You will also understand that it is impossible to see truth clearly while you still have injuries inside of you. But you won't let that stop you seeking truth and doing your best to clear whatever arrogance or injury you have that causes you to want to hold onto the façade that stops your clear vision.

In short, the answer is to be willing to feel all of the fears you expressed in your email – then pray to God for discernment and to the extent you are willing to feel your fears is the extent to which you will receive discernment.

When we are caught up and frozen in the fear of getting it wrong (which you are) then we are prone to look outside of ourselves and our own experience to other people for answers, reassurance and validation. This is dangerous for your own development as it fosters dependence on other people which takes you away from developing your own relationship with God and understanding of yourself.

I do notice interactions happening here on the forum from time to time where people are acting in this neediness to have others validate their experience. It's not that I think that sharing our personal experiences is always bad and that understanding that others have gone through or still have to go through similar emotions can't be helpful to an extent. But the addictive desire to only receive validation and do nothing beyond that in terms of feeling and experiencing emotion for oneself is very negative.

I also notice people who are responding to postings trying to provide 'reassurance' and 'validation' to others because they believe that this is love. This also highlights some injuries that are slowing those people down.

I know for myself in certain situations I still have the feeling: "I wish I could know that I was not going to make a mistake before I experiment with this".

But God's Universe doesn't work that way. On good days I am really grateful that God has made a system whereby my knowledge of truth comes through my own humility and experience. And that when that truth is known to me, while it may expand or be added to, it cannot be taken away from me. I won't be reliant on others for reassurance or support or agreement. I will be sure for myself.

Following the Way can feel like a lonely path because by nature, in the beginning, it is a path that each person has to engage alone with God. But this same thing that makes it feel lonely in the beginning is also the thing that makes it most beautiful as you progress. The Way gives us not only knowledge of God and understanding of Universal Truth, but also self knowledge and confident discernment.

The only way to allay the fears that you are expressing is to experience them. God can't gift us knowledge or discernment until we are willing to do this. And we have to be careful in spaces such as this forum, and in life in general, not to rely on the certainty we perceive in others, or on their reassurance that we are following a true and good path. That only causes our dependence on others, reinforces our fears to ourselves and leads us further away from progress.

In order to receive the Truth from God we have to want that truth. The reality is that our fears cause us to believe that the truth is dangerous, not true or threatening in some way – and this causes us to reject (rather than truly want) truth. That's why it's so important to connect to our false beliefs and release them. Otherwise, no matter what happens outside of us, we will always be rejecting truth and living with an internal sense of insecurity as a result.

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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by Angharad » Tue May 24, 2016 10:21 pm

Thank you Mary, I have found this immensely useful today. I printed it out and took it walking with me :D
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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by Sage » Wed May 25, 2016 1:37 am

I too thank you Mary. I find your humility, sincerity and honesty inspiring. Nicky suggested that I read this post and I am finding that there are definitely things I need to feel and pray about here, so thank you again.

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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by Mary » Wed May 25, 2016 2:48 am

Hi Angharad and Sage,

I'm glad that the post was of help.

With lots of encouragement to 'go for it' with your fears!
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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by David R » Wed May 25, 2016 5:37 am

Hi Mary!

I sincerely appreciate the welcome :D

Thank you for the well felt/thought out post, also lots of your videos have been immensely helpful :)

watching how much love you and Jesus have for each other is quite inspiring.

Lots of love

David

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Re: Truth or wishful thinking?

Post by Amanda Stracey » Wed May 25, 2016 9:07 am

Very very much appreciated. Resisting, suppressing and avoiding fear - well just wanting the feeling it has gone away is something I've felt impelled to do.

Love Amanda

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