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False Beliefs

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:53 am
by Eloisa
Hi Everyone.

Marina made a comment under a different subject, and it made me think about some false beliefs I am holding onto at the present time. I thought the reply fitted better in 'addictions' as I feel holding onto our false beliefs is about fears and addictions to doing so (especially once we are aware of them).

Link to original post is below:

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=415

Marina said:
I have wanted and still want the control and anger because I do not trust that any love can be offered to me in any other, more gentler space.

I am aware it is a false belief, but it is real, and I have to acknowledge that.
I feel it is essential to remind ourselves and get to a place of knowing this in our soul's that our false beliefs are NOT real. We need to acknowledge the false belief and feel about why it is there etc, BUT I feel that it is actually dangerous to continue to tell yourself it is ‘real’ because you are reinforcing it and justifying holding onto it when from God’s perspective it is not real and it is not the truth.

I just notice that I hold not ‘false beliefs’ in order to avoid feeling God's Truth on those matters.

I am noticing how addicted I am to holding on to, remaining in and continuing to believe my false beliefs (about all sorts of things, enter yours here). Sometimes I even convince myself it is 'safer' to stay there. But this is not the truth, i am just lying to myself, or trying to get away with unloving behaviours, and the Law of Attraction is a constant messenger showing me that I am in more danger - emotionally, physically and spiritually, when I remain working against God's Laws than when I embrace God's Truth.

Mary once gave me a really great exercise to do:
  • 1. Draw up two columns,

    2. Write down on one side the false belief/s you are working with (do it for every belief you find if you want to) - you can go into as much detail as you like, like where it came from, how your parents, friends, society, self feels about this issue etc, etc

    3. Write down on the other side God’s Truth on the issue (if you don’t know put in what might be the most loving option you can imagine at this time)

    4. Then feel/grieve the difference between your belief and how God feels about it. The feeling is the most important bit and if you are open to feeling you won’t need to do the exercise. For me it helped to just begin to think about God’s Truth rather than holding onto my own false beliefs all the time which was making me miserable!
On some issues there may be some anger to feel through about how much we want to hold onto the false beliefs and this will need to be felt before the other feelings will flow.

I thought others may find it a helpful starting point

Enjoy exploring,

Eloisa

Re: False Beliefs

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:06 pm
by Marina Smargiannakis
Hey Eloisa,

Wanted to say thank you for this post, and your previous feedback on the Anger & Addiction thread as well. There were many key points made, and really good soul food.

What I originally meant, my intention regarding my false belief being real was more of an acknowledgment of it being there, something that in the recent past I would've been completely blind to seeing or completely deny. Basically stating 'This. is. a. false. belief.' It probably seems silly to many, but for me it's a big deal just differentiating the two. I noticed in my life I wasn't/still am not sensitive, don't trust to decipher which of my feelings are false beliefs or true, and I would just put them all into this fuzzy true file, which totally supports your statement. I feel I am still blind to many things; in fact, I am feeling like I don't know much of anything, particularly today. I awoke, feeling really terrified of changing, that I would end up becoming someone I wouldn't know. Which could be partially true, and a great thing! That's not how it feels at all, though. It is really true, our addictions, facade, false beliefs create this robot that we are desperately trying to hold onto because I actually feel walking towards God means I turn into a God-robot; another false belief. I am also afraid of separating from my biological family, losing them.

This thread also triggered me in many ways about feedback, and it was really, really good. You do, in fact, make a great point about not defining it at all as real, that when we do, we put ourselves in a quite crisis state:
But this is not the truth, i am just lying to myself, or trying to get away with unloving behaviours, and the Law of Attraction is a constant messenger showing me that I am in more danger - emotionally, physically and spiritually, when I remain working against God's Laws than when I embrace God's Truth.
You had also asked a question to me on another thread about whether I had noticed the anger issue being brought up (from the meat-eating thread), which I will answer here.
I did notice it, faintly, but your question regarding it helped me to see it further, and it's good, that people are mentioning to me more about my anger. Thank you for being open to giving feedback.

I also feel, and still feel very sad about the comment you made about me terrifying you with my unloving projections towards the man whom I feel is my soulmate. Seeing it, yet again, how it affects a much bigger radius than that one individual, is upsetting. Really upsetting.

I intend to try this exercise with the two columns as well. I felt just even trying to think of two examples of my feelings on something and how different God's feelings are made me quite emotional, as to how far off I am. This exercise could really help many.

Thanks again.

Re: False Beliefs

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:40 am
by Teresa French
I was reading this post whilst Marjorie's link to the Facade song (from this thread: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=680) was playing in the background and when I got to this bit here:
Marina Smargiannakis wrote:I feel I am still blind to many things; in fact, I am feeling like I don't know much of anything, particularly today. I awoke, feeling really terrified of changing, that I would end up becoming someone I wouldn't know.
It struck me, what if the person I become looks back at the person I am now and hates me, judges me, belittles me for being stupid, and how did I get it so wrong.

What I woke up this morning with and dug a bit deeper into it in the shower and am still feeling more about it is the (fear of the) pain of making mistakes, of being wrong, how I had to avoid it at all costs in my childhood and how I have brought that into my life all the way till now.

So I realise that the person I will become when I grow in love won't feel that way, that's just the way I feel now, and that's what I do to others.

Eloisa, thank you for posting that list, and for helping me see that this addiction to being right, the false belief that I am always right, prevented me from feeling the utter terror of the consequences of getting something wrong in my childhood. I think I am getting an inkling of what humility actually feels like - the feeling of I am always right is so arrogant, and feels quite awful and yucky to me in this moment.

Re: False Beliefs

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:42 am
by Teresa French
sorry, the link to the thread didn't work... I hope this one does. Sorry about the mess.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=680