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Divine Truth Hub Forum Board (NOW CLOSED) • faith
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faith

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:50 am
by Pam
Hebrews 11:1

11 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
I believe faith is trusting God and what He promises to us. It is believing that what God promises us where come to passed. It is speaking and believing that it has already come to passed when it hasn't come to passed yet. Like if someone is standing in faith that they are healed from cancer and they begin to act like they are already healed. And they confess that they are healed. They are determine not to speak about the cancer but to speak and act like they are already healed from the cancer. The Bible says life and death are in the power of the tongue Proverbs 18:21 That means that we can have what we say. If we say we have cancer then we will die from cancer but if we say that we are healed from cancer then we will be healed from cancer. I believe Jesus used words to bring things to passed and He had faith in what He said and He didn't doubt what God could do. He cursed the fig tree and the fig tree died. Jesus said if we have faith as small as a mustard seed we can move mountains. We just need to believe without doubting and we will have miracles happen again like in the 1st century.

Whose report are we going to believe? The doctor's report or God's report?

Last Summer my black cat Arelene at 5 weeks almost died and I commanded him to come back to life in Jesus name. I was up the whole night commanding him to come back to life in Jesus name. At one point I just prayed and said God I believe that you will raise this kitten back from the died. I am going to bed and I have faith that he will wake me up for a bottle. At 5 am he resurrected from the died and begin to cry for milk. He is now a 14 month old cat weighing 15lbs.

God still does miracles even today we just have to faith and trust and believe that He can heal us and set us free and Jesus said if we pray in HIs name then God will answer our prayers. Arelene is proof that God still does miracles today.

Re: faith

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:52 am
by SamirM
Hey pam. Thanks for the awesome post. Pretty cool what happened with you and your cat :).

I definitely do feel faith to be as powerful as you say but i dont think it happens as you say. Of course, correct me if im wrong. But we are supposed to start with our personal truth and then have faith that Gods truth is better than our truth. So for this situation, we would actually have to acknowledge that we have cancer and that there is an emotional cause for this cancer. At this point we could begin to grow our faith that we dont have to have the cancer and that God and prayer can help us in feeling the reasons as to why we have the cancer and then we can process/experience that shit out. It feels to me that just "saying" that we dont have cancer is denial of the truth if we were just diagnosed with it. We can have positive feelings/words about the cancer but i dont think its healthy to deny the truth.

:):)

Re: faith

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:34 am
by Tara

Re: faith

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:33 am
by Pam
SamirM wrote:Hey pam. Thanks for the awesome post. Pretty cool what happened with you and your cat :).

I definitely do feel faith to be as powerful as you say but i dont think it happens as you say. Of course, correct me if im wrong. But we are supposed to start with our personal truth and then have faith that Gods truth is better than our truth. So for this situation, we would actually have to acknowledge that we have cancer and that there is an emotional cause for this cancer. At this point we could begin to grow our faith that we dont have to have the cancer and that God and prayer can help us in feeling the reasons as to why we have the cancer and then we can process/experience that shit out. It feels to me that just "saying" that we dont have cancer is denial of the truth if we were just diagnosed with it. We can have positive feelings/words about the cancer but i dont think its healthy to deny the truth.

:):)
I agree with you 100% on this. I used to be in the word of faith movement and there is good and bad in that movement. My husband and I were in the word of faith movement for about ten years and it actually hurt our relationship. I couldn't even asked for a head ache pill or asked for prayer without it being a bad confession. With all six of my pregnancies I suffered from morning sickness. When I was pregnant with my last daughter I had to become vegetarian just to not get the morning sickness. Meat made me so sick. One night at dinner my husband looked at my plate of vegetables and said to me."You are a poor example to the children when it comes to eating." This really hurt me when he said that to me. He knew how bad I suffered from morning sickness. I just felt like crying right there in front of him. I wanted to say back to him. "I have morning sickness and meat makes me sick." But that would be a bad confession and he could come back at me " You have morning sickness because you are speaking this on yourself." My human self wanted to say to him." You just wait until you get the flu. I will cook you a nice juicy steak and sit it in front of you. And when you can't eat it I'll say to you. You are a poor example to the children when it comes to eating." But this would be getting even with him and God doesn't want us to get even with people. So I said back to him. " You are really picking a bad time to pick on me." And he shut up.

At this time in our life our pastor was preaching that it is God's will to heal everyone and if you confess that you are healed you will be healed and if you don't get healed then you really didn't have enough faith. I actual believe this pastor. About five years ago he died of cancer. He wrote books on divine healing, he had several tapes and videos on healing and yet he died of cancer. This really hurt my faith that he died. I thought if this faith preacher died of cancer who could ever be healed of cancer by God? My dad used to tell me that it isn't God's will to heal everyone and now i kind of think my dad might be right about this. Why did Pastor Billy Joe die of cancer when he believed in healing?

Re: faith

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:25 pm
by Darragh
this is an interesting one! :) well actually everything is interesting. So i had a look at faith and what feeds it, how do we process faith, how do we know if its done, how do we put faith in someone. I once hear someone say that he has faith in machines more than people. I was a little disheartened by that person at that moment feeling his disheartened posture, tone and expression and so on. I pondered away on that one for a bit.

So anyhow. I didn't see where it has to do with a relationship with god. God will only deliver on gods purpose or gods work,gods laws, gods dirty dishes left in the sink or what have you. I can't see god interfering in another relationship. think about that for a moment though, god has already done his job... Our work area is the universe. (Haha! some worry about over population). Wouldn't that make faith after gods work, more like us having a lack of responsibility in looking at the relationship in which our problems arise. We look to god and god points into our ignorances and we assume god will take care of it. So I feel that god is pointing to me (in my case), at my fear. If i remove my fear then i will not need to "manually" put faith in myself at the gas station, I will automatically reconnect to a "knowing" supply or maximum unimpeded faith, which sounds like something god would give us.

If all that's true then somewhere along the like of humanity we were damaged and abused, tricked and deceived. We lost our premium "in the knowing" in each other for the lesser "faith" that has too much room for deception. (deception from the aggressor). That means its an emotional generational error. perhaps the old testament, or can anyone point me in a direction.

God gave us the ability to have faith automatically in god. If I look for this, I can have auto-faith in everyone and everything with a "Knowing". What could stop me then! nothing i believe. So I'm off on the hunt now for "the knowing" within myself, so this will take fierce determination, confusion, emotional release, longing. Cool! 8-)

Re: faith

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:54 am
by Darragh
Looking back now, I can see how my ego or façade hijacked my feeling .I was attempting to turn it into a selling point. I was like a cardboard cutout looking for others to have their picture taken with me. A lot of this can be related to how mary describes her feeling about "marketing". Cartainly it was a lesson for me. I've given up on certainty by "knowing" as it is pure façade. I actually "don't" know. No more intellectual façade hoardings. It amounts to nothing. I feel faith is a refreshing tool in all efforts when I open my heart to it. I will search in myself as to why it's not automatic.