Anger with Society & Blame

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Anger with Society & Blame

Post by Lena » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:49 am

Hi

this is my response to Dom's comment on this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=825&p=2963#p2963

which was based on my general feeling from reading Dom's intro post and the post in the link above.

This is not to tell Dom that he should not try to become more loving, but simply about his current feelings with society that I could feel.


Hi Dom,

I feel to take this little opportunity to bring your attention to your undercurrent anger with society.
I feel you speak your mind well, which is fantastic, and you are open about your feelings which is very good, but you have displayed some anger about general society (blaming them) in several of your comments which I have viewed.

And I feel it would be wrong of me not to bring your attention to this unloving feeling.

I know I had some of the feelings myself, perhaps not to the same degree, and while in that place I found I was only able to feel limited amount of stuff. As there was a feeing of blame coming out of me. As a result, I have lost some of my friends, and was unable to make new ones for a little while too.
As this was a place where I was arrogant to a degree, and not seeing my own huge part in whatever was wrong with society was in my own eyes. And the part my parents had.

We all have a different choice to make at any given time. But most of us do not take the first opportunity or even second.
I feel if you feel through your anger and desire to blame, you may accept your own part and condition, and will have more compassion to the people in society, rather than an arrogant point of view you currently have.

Lena

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by Allegedly Dom » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:37 pm

Thanks again for your honest feedback Lena, you're absolutely right. Your response here was so insightful in my particular emotional condition in regards to this anger/blame I have towards society. In fact, as soon as I started to read your comment, my intellectual defensive mind began misconstruing what you said 1/2 way through the first brief read of it for me so much that it stopped me and started telling me things like "Nah, shes way off. Don't listen to this. Don't even finish reading this. Don't even reply to this. She misunderstood you. She's telling you that you're being unloving. Who is she to judge you." - It completely ignored the compliment you dropped in there as well! Like the one about me speaking my mind and being open about my feelings. My anger/blame also blinded me from seeing that all you were doing was sympathizing, relating to having been in my shoes at one point in your own journey to some extent and simply wanting to help me.

After telling myself these manipulative defensive lies I immediately got in childs pose on the floor and just tried to reflect on how I was feeling aside from the lies I just told myself. A few tears came up to the topic of me being angry towards society, I realized I'm actually angry with myself for still contributing to the way society is by doing simple things like buying groceries from stores, driving, using a cell phone, using public water/electricity, gambling at casinos occasionally with what little money I have left etc. Instead I could move and be growing my own food (I even built an 8'x10'x8' vertical A frame hydroponics system 2 years ago that could probably supply half my neighborhood with fruits and veggies and its just sitting there because it's illegal to grow my own food on my own property here), catching more rain water than I currently do, saving up for solar panels etc.

I justify the reason I don't live free how I want to live is because everyone is telling me I can't and also the punishments for doing so are evident. I watch many people getting arrested/fined for simple acts of attempting to be sovereign. You aren't allowed to be naked, you can't go off the grid and build your own shelter, they're passing laws against catching rain water, against solar panels, against biodiesel fuel and engine conversions etc... It's ridiculous!

I can't ignore that there is a global elite/illuminati satanic cult (I know there is no devil but these people worship 'evil'/wrong doings as if there is) that are controlling the majority with man made laws, making us slaves while they kill us slowly by genetically modifying/poisoning the food, spraying chem trails, injecting us since birth with viruses and poison, suppressing technology and the advancement of mankind because it will shut down their existing monetary industries in oil, nuclear, power, pharmaceutical, war, etc. and they are doing this consciously knowing it is wrong. I used to cope with the overwhelming 'evil' being perpetrated on the Earth by telling myself "Everyone is doing the best they can, with the knowledge they have; because if they sincerely knew better they obviously wouldn't do these things." But then that got blown out of the water when I watched a video a week ago where Jesus said to stop telling ourselves this BS and be honest, that they are doing it because they want to even though they know it is unloving and I know this is the Truth. So I try to understand it better by realizing they are just hurt children in adult bodies that must've had terrible childhoods and unloving parents, so I can forgive them and still see their acts as a cry for help/love ultimately like everyone's basic need for love.
Also from what I understand, 'justice' is man made 'eye for an eye' mentality and if your life is threatened with death or torture you can't fight back physically because you will have soul damage. Letting them kill you without resisting violently stops you from being 'punished' by Gods laws that are in place, and the repercussions of the killing is entirely on their soul not yours. This helped liberate myself a lot amongst all this fear mongering propaganda and feelings of needing to own a gun which luckily I never bothered to do.

The only things I know we can do is educate ourselves in the loopholes and rights that we do have and stop partaking in the support of any of it in any way shape or form. Which probably leads to being homeless in the meantime (because technically we don't really own anything in this system, the banks do) and being purely God reliant. I've been studying "Natural Law" which seems a lot easier than learning legalese and the hundreds of thousands of man made laws and statutes to be able to defend myself intellectually against imposing authority. From what I understand about Natural law is if I am not harming anyone or anything I am free to do as I please. I don't owe any explanation to any authority figure plain and simple as long as I don't claim to be the all UPPERCASE 'stawman' identity name that is put on legal papers and again, owned and governed by the system. You don't even need to go as far as stating that you don't consent to being searched or providing paperwork etc. The more I study Natural Law the easier it is becoming to release my anger towards the system by realizing we all had and have a choice to partake in it or not, and out of fear we choose to stay quiet and 'comfortable' where we are.

Anyways, I feel like I'm on the right path for me which will lead to not being afraid of anything, freeing me to be able to go anywhere I please and do anything I want that doesn't require money but I'm not there yet. I still need to learn more about Gods Natural Laws, run out of money entirely and face my fears of being confronted by the system while living accordingly to these Natural Laws. I have just been using anger and blame as a blanket to keep me safe from my fear which further keeps me safe from actually changing entirely and taking action to live how I want to live and stop supporting the contrary.

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by Lena » Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:12 pm

Hi Dom,


I feel to again bring your attention to your feelings rather than actions you may take if you were loving.

You are justifying a lot of your anger because you are not yet taking it home fully and feeling it privately.

So instead of listing to yourself all of the actions which you feel you are doing unloving and contributing to the society, I feel strongly, you are missing out to see what you are doing emotionally unloving and contributing to society.

As while you are so angry, you will not easily know what is loving and what is not.
So for example some of the things you have said that are unloving in your eyes I see as loving.

What I am trying to say is that while you are so angry, you will not be able to logically approach each law and see if there are any good reasons why it is in place considering the current condition of society.

You see a lot of the government law was actually based as a response to unloving feelings in its nation.

I still feel you have not connected fully to what I am saying to you about the feelings that an average person in your country has and how those feelings are then reflected in its law.

I feel until you start to investigate this all with an open heart, you will not be able to see the connection.
As what US government does to other countries for example, is a reflection of how people in US feel about other countries other people, and as a return for such an action, government then wants to gain some things from its nation.
So there is a direct link to how people want to treat others and how they are treated themselves.

Anyways Dom, I feel this is a good opportunity to connect to some of the feelings you have rather than continue justifying them for yourself. As even this anger and outwardly projected aggression hugely contributes to the society negatively.

Cheers,
Lena

Edit:
I have previously recommended to you to view the following presentation. I feel again to recommend it and reflect about it more honestly:
20120717 Love In Action - Sincerity Or Hypocrisy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TKsIMlwSnZQ

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by LizziM » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:52 am

Thank you both SO much for this exchange, it helped me immensely. I had all the same thoughts & feelings as Dom, and Lena, your input was helpful. I tried getting into child's pose as well, and instant grief came, with sadness and remorse both. Many thanks to you two for sharing.

With Love,

Liz

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by Allegedly Dom » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:04 am

Omg, I totally forgot you linked that recommended video to me before. It was on my "watch later" playlist because I didn't have time to watch it when I read your post, but I just watched it and man that hits home with me and my condition perfectly. I had watched other video's about some of the things discussed in there before about all emotions being addictions and even read that in my notes before watching the video but still didn't occur to me. Again you're right, all I keep doing is intellectually justifying my anger/actions/beliefs beating around the bush not feeling the real problem. Also wasn't seeing the bigger picture in how our emotions still affect the world even though we may not be doing any physical actions.

But yeah, I'm having trouble connecting and looking at my emotional addictions honestly right now but will continue to try and do so. I'll report back here with what I discover to help document for myself and others.

*As I was writing this Liz Posted too; I'm so glad this discussion was helpful to you as well! I purposely wanted Lena to make this separate thread here so it can benefit as many people as possible and expose my limited perspective further haha. Awesome to see it's already working!* :D

Thanks again Lena! <3

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by Courtney » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:51 pm

I actually just had an interaction with a friend who I finally confronted about his anger with the american government just the same day this came up in the forum. I was searching for videos I could send him on the topic; the search "government" in the main Divine Truth youtube channel brought up the 2010 seminar on personal responsibility and 2011 on Cause and Effect, and I'll send him the one you linked in this thread too, Lena--thanks for that. Might anyone happen to remember which other videos contain discussion about this topic though?

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by maureen » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:07 am

I love this exchange with Jesus and Igor on this subject Jesus & Mary on How Changing Our Soul Changes Our Environment

Love,
Maureen

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by Courtney » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:16 am

Thanks Maureen!

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by Allegedly Dom » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:21 am

YES! Such a powerful message! Perfect for this category and my condition. I feel like my faith and hope is uplifted through the roof after listening. Thank you so much for sharing this gem of a video Maureen! :mrgreen: <3

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Re: Anger with Society & Blame

Post by BrendaHoffman » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:01 pm

Dom, I relate very much to those angry feelings toward government/society because it was not long ago I had the same opinions, nearly exactly. I'm not saying my anger has been released, but I too have been changing my mind as a result of Jesus' teachings. It just makes more sense. I feel terrible when I blame government and other "powers-that-be" for the state of the country, the world, and my life and emotional state. It makes sense that growing in love is the better path to take. Gosh, and Lena is right, we do have to take responsibility for our role in the way society is run, don't we?
But, I do have a desire, however, to live off-the-grid and produce my own food and such. That makes sense to me too. To take care of myself rather than expecting others to provide for me. I've been desiring to do so for a good while now and haven't yet made progress in that area.
Good luck to you and thanks for your humility and sharing. I have found this thread very helpful in facing my own anger.

Brenda

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